with him about a subject, i tend not to speak about it. bret: that was a nonanswer and abc is reporting that tensions are so high between the ag and the president that he threatened to resign. this is an extraordinary moment. jeff sessions, number one loyal person to trump. for senator to endorse him, the keeper of the flame on immigration, law enforcement. donald trump has never forgiven jeff sessions for recusing himself from the russian investigation which begat several steps down the line bob mueller and the special counselor. that was an extraordinary moment where sean spicer couldn t say that the president of the united states has confidence in his own attorney general. bret: there was someone else, jim comey. we know what happened after that. losing sessions is not smart. i know he didn t like the recusal decision. i happen to agree with him. i don t think you want to have an attorney general who whose first impulse is, i ve got to
another reason this is potentially important, under the strict rules that govern the way the white house and the department of justice are supposed to have contact with each other, the white house counsel don mccann is actually one of the officials who is allowed to have direct contact with the justice department, but the whole reason those rules exist is to prevent the white house, any white house, from having untoward influence on law enforcement decisions that are made at the justice department. there is a reason there is strict rules about not very many people from the white house being allowed to speak to justice department officials. don mccann is one of the people allowed to speak to the justice department under those very strict rules but if he was sent to the justice department by the president, specifically to interfere with the justice department on a law enforcement matter, specifically to interfere with jeff sessions recusal decision, how they administer the rule of law,