director of the american beverage institute. welcome. thanks for having me. thanks for being here. you called the ntsb s proposal ludicrous. why? it is ludicrous. it is so ludicrous in fact even mothers against drunk driving isn t supporting it. the fact is this recommendation targets moderate social drinkers and it fails to target the hard core high bac repeat offenders who cause the vast majority of alcohol related fatalities. if we want to solve the drunk driving problem in this country we have to target the people that are out there killing people and that is not somebody who is at 0.05. fewer than 1% of traffic fatalities happen down there at that 0.05 or 0.08 level. we have to focus on the high bac offenders if we want to make a dent in the problem. you heard what deborah said. a similar proposal in europe cut alcohol-related deaths in 2010. in half. how could you argue with the numbers? i m afraid that the ntsb is really cherry picking their data. you know, they are do