they re returning to france, belgium, britain, those are the countries that a lot of these people came from. as michael weiss was pointing out, remember jihadi john. and also they are trying to encourage well wishers, fellow travelers, and for a variety of reasons, britain and particularly the cities outside of london, birmingham, manchester, seem susceptible to these marginalized groups or quasi-assimilated groups of immigrants so, yeah, again, not in any sense this particular event, i don t mean in any way to subject that any officials or agencies did anything wrong. how on earth could you know this particular person was going to do something? but unfortunately, there has been there have been plenty of warnings that as isis loses at home, it will lash out abroad. fareed, just initially they re talking about this being a suicide bomb, saying also that there was shrapnel, shrapnel may have been used which would be nails. so my question to you is, if it
decades. just on a final point, recall jihadi john, mohammed emwazi, the guy who did the gruesome beheadings, the u.s. intervention in syria an iraq, also came from the uk. father was a black taxi driver which is a fairly middle class profession in london in the outskirts, so did fairly well for himself. emwazi i think was an engineering student and tried to go off to somalia to join al shabaab and was on mi5 s terrorism watch list. i would not be surprised, this unfortunately this is always you would write this script with a crayon at this point. every time something bad like this happens, we find out after the fact that this was someone who was being surveilled or did have a rap sheet of some kind. i wouldn t be surprised if that s the case here as well. okay. i need you guys to stand by. i want to get to someone. stand by, please. i want to get to karen ford. karen was at the concert tonight in manchester. joins me now by phone.
jihadi terrorism, of radical islamic terrorism, let s call it what it is, is with us, it s still alive, it still takes very few people to cause a great deal of damage. that remains the terrible calculous here which is we don t know how many people we re talking about. was this a lone guy? was it five people? was it ten? what we do know is it could be very, very small numbers that can inflict a great deal of damage. the uk, fareed, as we as you discussed in your program when we talked about here before, because of all the past incidents, under constant threat of terrorism attack. but has there been any indication that the uk was more susceptible than usual in recent weeks, months, days? again, if you broaden the framework to months, yes, terror officials have been saying as isis is losing ground, a lot of these people are returning and where are they returning?