in the recall 80s. i have something to tell you, the demons i have going on in me. these are exclusive recorded conversations. the first time i met him, he was telling me this murder was meant to be from before time. were you thinking, oh, my gosh, what am i getting myself into? what have i gotten myself into, exactly. he sat at the table and was clearing crumbs from the table that didn t exist all the time we were talking. when he answered a question and made eye contact, it was like he was not looking at me, he was looking through me. i knew i was looking at someone who was not ordinary. yet that didn t intimidate gaines. i spent more time than any sane person would have done. so why did you do it? because john lennon was murdered and he was important to me. i think he was important to everybody in my generation and to find out, you know, why. and i felt very lucky that i was able to interview, not because
this is the voice of a murderer, the voice of the man who killed john lennon. if you d had told me a year previous you were going to murder someone, anyone, i would say, my goodness, there s no way. i honestly never met someone as out of touch with reality as he was. was he crazier than you thought? he was a lot crazier than i thought, yeah. journalist jim gain spent hundreds of hours with mark david chapman at attica prison in the recall 80s. i have something to tell you, demons i have going on in me. these are exclusive recorded conversations. the first tim i met him, he was telling me this murder was meant to be from before time. were you thinking, oh, my