gave it to ukraine? well, that s what the word is. what i asked actually in my phone call. you know? i asked point blank, because we re looking for corruption. nbc news political reporter, doing digging, fact checking on all of this. the president says that ukraine hacked a dnc server. so many years ago, and gave it to ukrainian company called crowdstrike. this is, you see tiptoeing around this. essentially alleging ukraine hacked the election, framed russia and all kind done to make trump look bad. there s no evidence behind this. what we know happened, russians hacked the dnc to take a bunch of emails. dnc hired a private security firm crowdstrike to go in, see what happened. evidence they were hacked, go in. oh, it s russia. clean you of you the servers, rebuild serbors, decommission servers go in do the work private cyber work security firm