prices yet. the russians can harm them with energy exploitation. we can hit them and punish them and raise the cost of what they re doing. sandra: germany is dependent on russia for energy. thanks, rebecca. you just heard it there. mounting concerns for u.s. energy. americans are already suffering under high fuel costs here at home. our next guest says this situation combined with the president s policies will have us paying even more. bill cassidy is a member of the energy and natural resources committee. he joins us now. great to see you, senator. we re already paying $3.30 a gallon at the pump. that is already painful for most families in this country. what do you predict could happen here with not just gasoline prices but oil prices, heating oil? it s costing us more to heat our homes this winter what are the implications of this fight for us here at home?
countries are waffling it a bit. yes, the u.s. can go it alone but it depends on nato unity and nato teamwork to get this job done. so there is talk of unity, but again, the longer this drags out, the longer there could be issues, sandra. sandra: thanks, greg. as we look at a map of russia, ukraine and the surrounding european countries there, what exactly are the stakes over there and for us here? let s ask rebecca heinrichs. what do you see happening there next? i ll tell you what, it s inevitable that russia will do something. the question is at this point is how far is russia going to go back into ukraine? what are the extent of the military operation. you can tell by the president s statement about a minor incursion that it s like this
emergency suitcase if we have to run somewhere. why should we run? we have no where to run to. we don t have any stockpiled food or supplies. we lived through the world war. if it happens, we will live through this one as well. finally, the talks still do continue. the british prime minister scheduled to be here tomorrow. back to you. sandra: thanks. here to discuss moscow s latest moves, hudson institute rebecca heinrichs and claudia rosette from the wall street journal. the u.s. ambassadors to u.n. said the situation is dangerous and urgent. are we prepared for this fight? first of all, we won t be sending forces to the ukraine. the president has made that clear. our ambassador did well.
rebecca heinrichs. thanks for being here. putin has built up his forces and could invade or back down. we re left wondering what could change his mind if he s decided to invade or what could push him over the edge and move in. what are we left wondering could change in the next 24 to hour 8 hours? the situation is grim. when we hear jake sullivan that more troops are ready, the one thing that has developed are the large exercises the belarus. the russians continue to build up their troops and increasingly surround ukraine. at this point, all the threats have happened, words have been exchanged between the united states and the russians.
the u.n. won t be any help because russia and china can block anything substantial. what we should be doing is making ukraine strong, sending them all kinds of lethal aid and then we can put sanctions on ukraine now because of what russia has already done. cyber attacks, false flag operations and things like that. last i would say we must be arming the romanians, the poles, our nato allies that will be in russia s shadow if they do an invasion of ukraine. sandra: to rebecca s point, claudia, aren t there actions that we could be taking now to be more pro active rather than waiting for putin to make the first move? absolutely. i mean, there should be if we should be bolstering nato not with a token number of troops, what this really is, but massively, i wish that president biden would stop repeating that we will not send troops to