Rudy Giuliani went from America’s mayor and celebrated crime fighter to Trump’s sidekick, peddling election lies. But a new MSNBC docuseries examines whether he really changed as much as Americans think. Director Rebecca Gitlitz joins.
right? always looking for who s going to help him climb you know, jimmy breslin has this amazing line that rudy is a dictator looking for a balcony. i think that really sums up who giuliani is. i honestly have several more pages of questions and last night as i was watching it, i was like ooh, ooh, i m going to ask her about this. people should just watch it. it really is i think an important look at somebody who has become a critical figure in the conversation that we re having right now about who we are as a country. rebecca gitlitz, thank you so much. we really appreciate it, and you should be sure to catch when truth isn t truth: the rudy giuliani story it s this sunday at 10:00 p.m. eastern, you can also see it streaming on peacock. have the pressures of public life now become far too extreme. what three recent examples tell us about the politics of anger and division. and an exclusive one on wun with vice president kamala
giuliani story it s a deep look at how his political identity was formed. i want to introduce rudy giuliani, and maybe i ll ask rudy to say a few words. what you said the priorities so we can have a very, very close working relationship. there s no appeasing people like rudy. there s no appeasing people like trump. there are people whose core value is white supremacy. joining me now the director of the documentary, rebecca gitlitz, also an executive producer at time. i am through three of the four. i only got it last night. it s fascinating, and i m reminded that when he first entered public life, i mean, people were impressed by him. in your documentary people used words like integrity, moral, reform-minded, somebody who took on the mob and wall street. in total, though, after 18 months or so of looking into this deeply, who s the rudy giuliani you found? i think what s interesting about the film itself is that
we heard going off saying your five minutes are up? reporter: he offered exactly five minutes. it sounded like one of his aides wanted to stick to that precise time, chris. sahil kapur, thank you so much. up next, a first look going inside rudy giuliani s rise to power and fall from grace. the director will join me next. ? -yeah. no. there s my little marzipan! [ laughs ] oh, my daughter gives the best hugs! we re just passing through on our way to the jazz jamboree. [ imitates trumpet playing ] and we wanted to thank america s number-one motorcycle insurer -for saving us money. -thank you. [ laughs ] mara, your parents are exactly like me? i know, right? well, cherish your friends and loved ones. let s roll, daddio! let s boogie-woogie! a ballet studio, an architecture firm. and homemade barbeque sauce. they re called small businesses.