closing argument as well as her reb rebuttal. she went through the elements, ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you what citizen s arrest means, do you see a crime? to shan s point, they re not looking at things leading up to this which leads me to wonder did they conclude that citizen s arrest was applicable here and they re honing in on self-defense? if they got to that part, you ll ask questions, at the time there was a fatal shot, was there immediate fear of death or serious bodily injury? were the shots fired proportionate to any threat posed? did the defendant at that time act reasonably under those circumstances? last point, alex, to your level of complication, even if they make those conclusions, now they have to go back and say, wait a minute, he might have been in immediate fear at the time and might have acted proportionately. but wasn t he the aggressor? wasn t he engaged in other felonies so we shouldn t give himself defense?