by, trump was reportedly just not interested in doing more to stop it. and trump learned that his own vice president had to be rushed to a secure location, trump reportedly responded, so what? so what? trump accepted the violence that they. he liked the threat to democracy than, they re whipping of violence on his behalf, the anger. and he still does. and that s quickly emerging as the core argument in president biden s reelection campaign. in a speech on friday, biden called democracy the most urgent question of our time, saying trump is willing to sacrifice it. and just this afternoon, speaking at mother emanuel church, he compared the perpetuation of the big lie to those who denied the outcome of the civil war. biden isn t imploring americans to save democracy from the man who by his own account wants to destroy it. but as president biden leans into this contrast with trump, this particular line of attack, something to think is just kind of old dunes, it s in the past. rep
ide with jen psaki starts no w. well, if the first week of the new year has shown us anything, it s that joe biden and donald trump are basically living on different planets when it comes to their approach to american democracy. tonight, i m gonna talk to house speaker emeritus nancy pelosi about all of that. plus, president obama has appointed david plouffe as a senior strategist who might be useful to the biden campaign. of course he would be. david is gonna join me tonight as well. but we do want to start tonight with some new reporting from abc news that is shedding greater light on what trump was doing, and more importantly not doing on january 6th. as a mob pushed its way into the capital, becoming more and more violent as the minutes tic by, trump was reportedly just not interested in doing more to stop it. and trump learned that his own vice president had to be rushed to a secure location, trump reportedly responded, so what? so what? trump accepted t
call for the execution of his vice president. and he is justifying it by saying they are angry, in the exact same way dan scavino describes what trump said in realtime on january 6th. you have obviously written books about trump. you know a lot about him. one of the things that stuck out to me recently, his view, this announcement that he s going to be attending these legal hearings, why do you think that is? by the way, he spends a number of days in court with a civil case in new york. he seems to you know, i wrote, really, detailed descriptions of his first appearance in court, his first arraignment in new york, his first arraignment on federal charges in florida. and when he first was in the courtroom, he s not in charge. the judge is in charge. he has to rise when the judge comes in right, why is he coming back again and again? he seems uncomfortable and freaked out about it. but i think what has happened since then is that his campaign
luna, i mean, this is a really important point. and your point in the opening of this show, this is not old news. this is trump s state of mind and what truly, i think, are the defining hours of the trump presidency. and by the way, i think he sees that day as the defining moment of the trump presidency. he sees january 6th as a great moment because the people came to washington for him, because they agreed with him that the election was stolen again, because they were angry on his behalf. but to hear him telling me in that interview, which was just a couple of months after january 6th, that it s common sense that people would want to call for the execution of his vice president. and he is justifying it by saying they are angry, in the exact same way dan scavino describes what trump said in realtime on january 6th. you have obviously written books about trump. you know a lot about him. one of the things that stuck out to me recently, his view, this announcement that he s going to be
what are you learning? a source tells me this won t just be a vote on contempt, that there are significant new details, that the committee is going to lay out in black and white the substance of these texts. we re going to hear members read exactly what was being said to mark meadows and what he was saying back in realtime on january 6th during the riot. let me give you an example of two that we re aware of from the 51-page document. this is a stekt from a former white house employee to mark meadows, quote, you guys have to say something even if the president is not willing to put out a statement. you should go to the cameras and say we condemn this, please stand down. if you don t, people are going to die. although the committee does not identify who that former white house employee is, reknow who it is from a washington post