doing? i tried to be that person and then the people around him attacked me. all of this is the legacy of our country s first reality tv president, where everything is personal and it s all about the show. up next, an marie cox and daniel dale join me to rehash the week of chaos. n marie cox a daniel dale join me to rehash the week of chaos. marie cox and daniel dale join me to rehash the week of chaos. marie cox and daniel dale join me to rehash the week of chaos. marie cox an daniel dale join me to rehash the week of chaos. n marie cox a daniel dale join me to rehash the week of chaos. it s time for the ultimate sleep number event
mentioned the money trail, and someone basically trying to get that investigated next. but leah, just briefly, your view of whether this story dies like so many other trump alleged scandals? i mean, it s the era of scandals. the reality tv president and he knows how to put on a show. you know, if i m him right now, particularly going into this kind of big mueller investigation and this big probe, i would want this stormy daniels thing to just go away, and yet, it s still going, it s becoming something much bigger than it initially was. right. and two, it exposes the hypocrisy of evangelical leaders in this country right now. leah and margaret, thank you both. i m going to turn to this question on the money trail and where those funds came from and did that break campaign laws. they filed these complaints with the d.o.j. and the sec about the $130,000 payment. if you put aside the ethical
discussing. i was at an event years ago and a question was who represents the heart and soul of the party. the answer i think most telling was parties don t have hearts and souls. parties are organizations and fundame fundamentally organizations around ideas and what has happened we are talking about roy moore versus steve bannon and mitt romney, we re talking about individuals, sort of personalities. i think the party should flourish again when it is organized around defense of principles and ideas that have an impact on voters. the longer we start arguing this or litigating this through the cult of personalities that s what happens when you have a reality tv president who is head of the party we end up with debate that s are vaccous and lacking substance. it is about personalities.
yes, you ve got this solid group of people in this very narrow corner of the gop that s behind you no matter what. but as you noted his friend telling him you re bigger than that, and the urld with is bigger than that. and you now have to speak to a significantly more important group of americans. and that s all of us. and i think the president is having a hard time squaring that, and it shows on a day in and day out basis. he still thinks he has to be and dedo a reality tv president as opposed to just beelg president. eugene, we ve all talked about the people around the president who say the best way to reach him is through the media, the media you know he sees and reads. the tom berric interview was so interesting in that respect. do you think it s a way in? do you think he s doing a favor for people who are trying to prevail here? you know i have no way of knowing what sort of
corner of the gop that s behind you no matter what, but as you noted with his friends telling him, you re bigger than that. the world is bigger than that, and you now have to speak to significantly more important group of americans, and that s all of us. and soing that the president is having a hard time squaring that, and it shows on a day in and day out basis. he still needs he has to do and be a reality tv president as opposed to just being president. you jean, we ve all talked about the people around the president who say the best way to reach him is through the media, the media you know he says and reads. the top bar rack interview was so interesting in that respect. do you think it s a ways in? do you think he s doing a favor for people who are trying to prevail here? you know, i have no way of knowing what sort of conversation he might have had with people who wanted him to get a certain message to the