welcome back. we are continuing our conversation on amendment one in north carolina and the wedge between the black and the gay communities and joining me are aisha moody mills, and jennifer kresler of the american quality council and reverend ray barber from the american could sill of the naacp, and you guys were giving it to me good in the break. don t leave it all here in the ad space, because there are deep interconnections between the idea of a wedge which is historically silly. i want to remind americans and remind our viewers that the architect of the march on washington is not martin luther king jr., although he was the great voice, but the architect was byron rustin who is a openly gay man and quaker and pacifist and all of those things openly, and that his relationship with king was deeply impacted by his out identity, and barbara jorda