donald trump started his takeover of the republican party. and our long descend to where we are. we now know that donald trump knew what he was asking mike pence to do was illegal. and we are left to wonder about just how much danger donald trump knew mike pence was in when he was sending anti pence tweets to the smartphones of the trump mob attacking the capitol. by 2:24 pm, the secret service has had moved vice president pence from the senate chamber to his office across the hall. the noise from the rioters became audible, at which point we knew they had gotten into the building. then president trump tweeted, mike pence didn t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country and our constitution, giving states a chance to certify a collective set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. usa demands the truth. bring out pence! the situation was already bad. and so it felt like he was pouring
right wing reacting to his tweets before they converged on the capitol. reports that pence caved. if pence caved, we are going to trial drag this guy through the streets. you politicians are going to get a drug through the streets we deserve to be with the rest of them. vice president is not going to interject anything. [noise]. you heard it here first. mike pence has betrayed the united states of america! okay, that is horrifying. unfortunately, it is the tip of the iceberg. turns out, a trump s lawyer and insurrection mastermind, johnny, did not think that the supreme court would overweight overturning the election. a swing claimed to have insight on fighting among the justices. i wonder how he got that? that is strange. maybe it is not so strange. he did clerk for justice aaron thomas. the washington report shows that he has been exchanging corresponds with jesse thomas. he denied that any of this can come before the court. now the january six committee has some qu
what was it? [ sighs ] i can t remember. top of the hour on cnn newsroom. good to have you along. i m victor blackwell. we re starting this hour with the questions of potential legal jeopardy for former president donald trump and his attorney john eastman. the january 6th committee made its most forceful case yet that trump was responsible for the capitol insurrection. this was their third hearing and the committee revealed evidence that trump and eastman knew that their plot to push then vice president mike pence to delay the certification of the election results was not legal but kept unrelenting pressure on pence anyway, with trump berating and cursing at him on the phone. listen to former trump white house lawyer eric herschmann on his conversation with john eastman. i said are you out of your effing mind, and that was pretty blunt. i said, you re completely crazy. you re going to cause riots in the streets. and he said words to the effect of there s been violence in
the plan was illegal, or said in in front and trump did not care it was illegal. i think that was one of the biggest take-aways that eastman himself knew it was illegal and put it in an email, i want you to do a minor constitutional violation. chuck, back to you, we will build our way back to donald trump if we, can and specifically about his lawyer, that lawyer, john eastman, we even saw the email that he wrote to golden globe, saying, you know, having to rudy giuliani, saying you know, having thought about it, i think i do need a pardon here that understands his mind set and understanding he had done something criminal, why else would you need a pardon, what are the legal implications to face him? good questions, peter. first on the pardon, i m not a poker player but i m told people who play poker look for tells if they have a good land or a bad hand and a tell, consciousness of guilt, as you articulated would be asking for a pardon, would be asking for a pardo
pence. the white house council said pence did not have any authority to throw out the results. trump s pressure on pence, and i quote, directly contributed to the violent insurrection. let s take a look at this photo. it s obtained by abc news, showing pence and his family inside hiding, as the building was being ransacked by rioters. pence s daughter on the left side of the photo, his wife on the right, pulling the curtains closed for extra safety. and pence had good reasons to be hiding. some of the rioters brought gallows to the capitol while calling for pence to be hanged. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. pence s former chief of staff will not testify in person. but clips from his video deposition are expected to be played. tonight, in a short, telling wolf blitzer, who he believes is ultimately responsible for the january 6th violence. well, to be clear, do you blame those surrounding the president for giving him bad advice? or do