but doesn t seem like. i have you done flight simulations? ever tried it? no we do not. we don t practice those types of simulations. it s not a practical thing because you get to that point you know how to land an airplane so this is a matter of landing in the an unusual surface area. david you and i were talking off camera and i was needing comfort from you given the title of your book and the fact we all fly. there was some notion did this plane just fall out of the sky? and they don t just fall. the way they are designed is what was the statistic you were saying? the rate a plane would come down? there s a as les can tell us, there s a lot of different kinds of stall. and with this situation we re talking about a wing over-the-wing air stall, almost like what you saw in top gun with the flat spin. that s the kind of thing as a reference that it might be. you have to remember a