down the rhetoric, despite a wave of violent threats against law enforcement. good morning and welcome to morning joe. it is monday, august 15th. a lot has happened since we got off the air friday, so since we finished coverage friday, we learned the search warrant for mar-a-lago revealed former president trump is being investigated for possible violations of the espionage act, tied to the mishandling of national defense information or classified material. now, according to the fbi, 11 sets of classified records were seized from trump s home, including some marked as top secret, meant only to be available in special government facilities. two other laws were also cited as a basis for the warrant pertaining to removing, destroying, or concealing records and obstruction of justice. according to the search warrant for mar-a-lago, agents were allowed to search trump s office, all storage rooms, and all other rooms available to trump, his staff, or anywhere documents could be
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because two, if not three of the crimes that were charged in the search warrant, parenthetically, they re not limited to charging only those three crimes. they can use the evidence they found to prove any crimes. even if they were only focusing on those three crimes, two out of the three clearly don t require the information to be classified. the third, it is arguable it doesn t, as well, but i do think the espionage act, donald trump has a little bit of a stronger argument. then there is a factual issue which you re raising, jonathan, were they, in fact, declassified? even if this were a legal defense, which it is not. yes, there is a process. so the president, while he was president, certainly not while he was the former president, he can blow through those processes and say, you know, i decided not to follow them.
justice. he pled guilty to that. the lawyer was simply a conduit for the principal s lie. if that s what happened here, then donald trump is the one who will bear the brunt of the department of justice s wrath. andrew, good morning. it is jonathan. one of the numerous excuses we heard over recent days from the former president is the idea that all these documents were declassified, whether there was a standing order he always had at the white house, which john bolton said it was not true, or he d never heard of it, or he had declassified them upon his departure from office. presidents have broad declassification powers. walk us through, though, there is a process, right? it is not just waving a magic wand. is there any evidence that that process was enacted, and then does it even matter? shouldn t he have not had the documents, whether they were classified or not? great questions. let s start with, legally, it does not matter.