lays out the stakes today. that headlines reads here is what a cyber war with russia may actually look like. let s bring in a cyber expert and senior fellow with the atlantic council. u.s. officials have told me this week there is a multi-phase russian plan to try and debilitate the u.s. energy sector. they say it is actually underway right now. phase one launch before putin even invaded. that s right. i think with russia being the most sanctioned country on the planet a real risk they ll retaliate in cyberspace and not take it lying down. the energy and financial sector will be their top targets and we should not be lulled into thinking that because they are incompetent on the battlefield in ukraine they will be incompetent in cyber face. cyber forces carry quite a punch. gillian: 16 days in now yesterday i learned that it turns out i want to get this right. russian ran someway has been