World. Im Fareed Zakaria coming to you from aspen, colorado. Today, an extra special program with three, yes, three former secretaries of the treasury. First ill auck to Henne Paulson and Timothy Geithner about the downgradingst u. S. Credit ratings and the struggles the chinese economy. And then robert rubin talks about how to make hard decisions. And what a yellow legal pad has to do with that skill. Finally, david byrne came to fame with his new wave band Talking Heads. Some 40 years ago. I talk to him about his latest wave of creativity which includes a musical about former philippina first lady Imelda Marcos. Performed in a broadway theater. That has been transformed into a disco. But first, here is my take. For years now, American Politics has been shaped by the idea of the chinese shock. The term coined by three economists in a 2016 paper captures the widespread believe that trade with china has resulted in the deindustrialization of significant parts of the u. S. And loss of hu
iconic new york music club cbgbs. the land he led talking heads went on to fame with genre defying hits. they also put out what is often heralded as one of the greatest concert films of all time. stop making sense. the band split in 1991. but byrne, who is called a poly math, has stayed indulging his artistic and human interests. he kept making music. he s written books. he s created an immersive theater piece grounded in principles of neuroscience that ran in denver. in the theater, of the mind he started a website called reasons to be cheerful. which you should check out when the world is getting you down. and he took home a 2020 tony award for his hit musical
when it starts to preach. when it becomes a soap box and people are doing that. why? because you lose the artist yes. you have to do the art part first. and then the other things could be done by inference and i think an audience gets that. and they ve i think it works sometimes. but it is really difficult to do. to pull off a very pointed political show. you ve done something unusual. not completely unique but unusual for somebody as celebrated as you. you don t sort of rest on your laurels and go out and do the tour with, you know, playing the great old hits. you are trying projects in neuroscience in denver, you re trying american utopia here and trying to do this new broadway