Up next Lawrence Odonnell talks about his book playing with fire. And the transformation of american politics, which recalls the turmoil of the 1968 president ial election. We recorded this in washington to d. C. In 2017. This 1968 election, was the first when i was alert for. I was in high school, i remember zero of the 1964 election, just the one right before that. And i remember just flashes of 1960, because it was a giant deal for Irish Catholic boys in boston. And one of us was on his way to winning it. And its hard to believe this now, but in those days we lived under a certain kind of, old ghetto culture notion that it could not happen. That they could not elect a catholic president of the United States. But if you know our political history, for the decades proceeding that without smith, and with others there was evidence, that you could not elect a catholic person. And that was transcended and exploded, one night in november in 1960. So the world we were looking at, in 1968 wh