kind of attack, and we don t know exactly what this was yet except a horrific incident, but this is the kind of attack that we ve seen theoretically in new york. but more importantly, we have seen in action in europe where individuals seeking to do harm have have not had to worry about complicated schemes involving bombs or airplanes. they ve just gotten their hands on trucks and driven them into crowds. art? yeah, no, you re exactly right, jake. again, we go back. we look at the terrorist attacks that we ve seen over the past two or three years and we know that al qaeda and other terrorist groups have put out a call to use whatever you can, whether it s a bicycle, a vehicle, a bus, a truck, whatever, and try to take out as many people as you can. and, again, i know this is early on, but when you have a relentless truck it looks like from a rental company that drives that many blocks down a
for the kids. and of course people were on the ground. he also said at some point during the chaos, he heard at least two gunshots. jake? alison, just to clear it up for us, you night not have the answer, was anybody in the school bus? was it a school bus with children in there? reporter: he said there were some in there, but it was not a full school bus. he couldn t tell exactly how many were on the bus. interestingly enough, around the radius that has been cordoned off by the crime scene tape, there are a lot of schools. at least two elementary schools. there is a community college and a middle school as well. parents are literally standing outside of the windows of at least one of these elementary schools and talking with their kids. these parents tell me they got e-mails around 3:00 that the schools were under lockdown because of the shooting. jake? do we know if any of the kids were hurt? reporter: the ones in the
it was a normal day and just out of nowhere i see people i see people running and screaming. and then just multiple gunshots, one after another. i mean, it was just completely unexpected. how quickly did the police come on the scene? the police were already there when i got there. did you see a school bus involved? how are you holding up after all of this? i m doing all right. i m happy there aren t more casualties than there were. the safety of everyone else is my concern. you mentioned a school, did you see a school bus. i only saw one man laying on the ground who appeared to be injured. did you see the truck actually drive up? no, i saw the truck after it was in the accident. i saw smoke coming out of it, but i didn t see the actual collision. i heard it was with a bus, but i didn t see the actual bus. what kind of bus, a school bus? i m not sure. i heard a bus. did the man looked like he was armed? the man who was being arrested was not putting up any fi
how do we harden that particular area? you know, just a couple of weeks ago we were talking about vegas and how to harden these venues where there is a large gathering of people. this is just another area where there is a large gathering of people. luckily this happened at 3:20 to 3:30 in the afternoon. granted there are a lot of people on the bike trail, but luckily it wasn t at 6:00 or 6:30 at night when the parade was supposed to kick off when you ve got thousands of family members out there trick or treating with their children. cnn s alison kosik in new york city for us. she joins us again. alison, what are you learning? reporter: i did talk with oneone witness, jake, who said he did see two a pickup truck that slammed into at least two men. he also saw then the pickup truck slam into a school bus. he said that the bus didn t seem like it was full at the time, but he said his first thought was, you know, he was so scared
example of that. and we re looking right now. the yellow on your screen, this is a map of lower manhattan. there is ouston street. the west side highway is on the left part of the island. this stretch, this long stretch. general clapper, trying to mow down cyclists and runners and then according to at least one witness who spoke with alison kosik, deliberately trying to ram into and succeeding in ramming into a school bus. you can t i can t think of anything more horrific. it s hard to comprehend. it always has been for me. what moves a human being to do that to other human beings. it s beyond comprehension to me and how people become persuaded to do that. i know it leaves a lot of people tasked with keeping us safe at a loss and also trying to figure out you talked