it would be the first time since 1789 we would have a depression or recession for sure and i think we can get agreement on that. we get past the crisis, we can move forward and end the year on a positive note. thank you for joining me. thanks, piers. let s hear from james lang ford in oklahoma. welcome back to you. let me start with an audience member question here and i want to go to ramiro funez who has a question for you. hello. do you believe growing frustration with the democratic and republican parties will bring more attention to third party candidates in the next presidential election? you know what? that s the great unknown. a lot of candidates tried to jump in famously ross pa row and others. sometimes they are a difference maker for republicans and democrats but not actually won. there is not others than a few independence in the house and senate and end up caucusing. i think there is a continual push to redefine the parties and