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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20220228 11:30:00

believe me, the ukrainians know how to fly the might go-29. it is not a bad move. great. if you are keeping score at home, admiral stavridis, 5 6 . the president of ukraine, 5 6 . winston churchill, 5 6 . those are good numbers to have on your side when you go to war. yeah, he s definitely unified ukraine. he is giant. extraordinary what has happened. admiral, thank you very much. thank you, admiral. we still need to get to richard haass, president of the council on foreign relations. we will talk more about ukraine s president rallying ukrainians and much of the world against vladimir putin. ukrainians willing to stay and die for their country. we are taking a look really, the admiral is right. what he has transformed himself into over the past week is historic. he has stepped up. we are taking a look at this remarkable transition from his early days in entertainment to a

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20220228 11:52:00

at the moment they re working on getting weapons perhaps to poland where they will be driven in, that s an option being considered. there s a thought from defense secretary they might train ukrainians elsewhere in neighboring countries on how to use the weapons and have them come back in without committing u.s. forces. on the idea of weapons we heard from president putin over the weekend turning up the level of nuclear arm meant there. the white house considered responding. the president could have gone to defcon three and matched that, but decided not to. decided to play down this. in fact, fanned out over administration officials over the last days to question putin s grip on reality, do they feel he is more isolated because of the pandemic, that he doesn t have people around him telling him what is going on and they wanted to plant that seed. senior officials i talked to say they think it is successful. but i will note i spoke to someone over text in the administration that said the

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20220228 11:40:00

the past that actually far from blowing up in his face helped him achieve much with little cost. perhaps he just miscalculated. if he did miscalculate, what s the next move for putin? what s the next move also for western diplomats to try to figure out how to get him out of the corner? and i understand there are several options, but, as i have said before, the last thing we want is vladimir putin in the corner where he really does start thinking about nuclear weapons or does start thinking about the indiscriminate bombing and killing of ukrainians. well, you re exactly right, joe. he did miscalculate. you re right, a cornered putin is a dangerous putin because we don t know what he would or wouldn t do. also, at the moment it is not clear to me there s any constraints. there s no checks and balances. if he went on the nuclear alert, no one around him is going to

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20220228 12:02:00

were doubts about its future, and former president trump was openly flirting with the possibility of pulling the u.s. out of nato. but as a result of president putin s invasion as former secretary rice was just alluding to, the nato alliance seems stronger and more united than it has in a whole long time. as i sat down this morning with the second general of nato here at nato headquarters in brussels, he had just gotten off the phone with president zelenskyy and was preparing for a phone call that he will be having today with president biden where he says he wants to speak with biden about dealing with this new normal, this new security reality that s going to be a threat for the u.s. and for europe for some time to come . he also said he thinks russia underestimated the ukrainians and their ability to fight, and according to his assessment the russians are facing and have suffered many more casualties than they had expected to in the

Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20220301 12:33:00

unfortunately in very sad circumstances. arming ukraine may not be enough. do european allies would poland get involve d militarily? no, technically ukraine is not nato member state so we can t defend them militarily. but of course, we can deliver weapons to them. we can support them financially. this is very important. yesterday i posted a tweet appealing to here in america to do the utmost in order to support the ukrainian cause in these difficult circumstances. they can collect food, blankets, medicines. this is something the ukrainians really need. we can t even imagine what is the scale of this confrontation. what do you worry is russia s next move after ukraine? i am pretty sure that this is not last item on mr. putin s menu, unfortunately. poland will be targeted. the baltics will be targeted and

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