of broad energy reform, what lies ahead? as they say, it ain t easy being green. joining the panel now is actor and supporter of the rainforest network chris nothe, and president of the natural i almost said national, which would have been such a fail. the natural resources defense counsel francis bynake. let s talk broadly about sort of where people who care about the planet are these days. there was a lot of talk. al gore, an inconvenient truth there seemed to be some momentum for the cause of environmental reform. in the last four years we haven t seen a lot of action on the issue. where do you stand now in terms of optimism? boy, that s a word i m a little hesitant to use as i would be hesitant to use pessimism because both can keep you away from the core element of taking action. if you are too optimistic, you know.