allen morris is legislative affairs associate with the non profit agency the refugee and immigrant center for education and legal services, better known as raices texas. he explained the legal problem the president is dealing with. there is an appeal that is set in place now where he is actively fighting in court and one thing we have to be cognisant of is that the president had plenty of time to foresee what was going to happen and even the secretary he says himself that this is not a humane policy and there is no humane way to even implement it. and with the previous administration they went the legal rout to ensure that this policy would stick and unfortunately president biden, he did run on promises of ensuring a humane asylum system and he is not keeping that promise.
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we ve never seen anything like the images that are coming out from today s visit and to your point, if this was to have been constructed as a pr opportunity, i think it appears to have blown up in the face of the vice president significantly, because i m shocked even knowing what i hoe, i m shocked by the images i m seeing. jonathan ryan of raices texas which provides legal support and representation for many of the migrants down at the boarder who are seeking asylum, which is of course legal under u.s. law. jonathan, thank you very much. thank you joining me now democratic senator mazie hirono of hawaii, who is a member of the judiciary committee. senator, your reaction to the images that we re seeing from the visit of the vice president and some of your colleagues. in fact, the chair of your committee, if i m not mistaken, lindsey graham was in there, mike lee as well who i believe is on your committee as well they were down there during this trip what s your reaction to this