he would maybe be the best person to have. i mean, how mad can you get that joe biden? and a remarkable scene inside the capital, warehouse members protested senators on their way to vote down a federal right to abortion. all in starts right now. good evening everyone, i m ayman mohyeldin, in new york, in for chris hayes. the ex president knew the conclusion he wanted. he wanted to overturn the results of a free and fair election. he wanted to install himself as the winner. he just needed to manufacture a way to get there. and that is where john eastman comes into the picture. eastman, of course, is a lawyer, and a die hard trump ally who was the architect behind much of the attempted coup and in fact he even spoke at trump s january 6th rally at the lips, the one where trump incited the insurrection. all we are demanding of vice president pence is an afternoon at 1:00, we are in he let the legislatures of the states look into this, so that we get to the bottom of it, a
insurrection. all we are demanding of vice president pence is an afternoon at 1:00, we are in he let the legislatures of the states look into this, so that we get to the bottom of it, and americans will find out whether they have control of the government or not. we no longer live in a self governing republic if we cannot get the answer to this question. this is bigger than president trump. it is a very essence of our republican former government and it has to be done. and anybody that is not willing to stand up and do it does not deserve to be in the office. all right, so, that is what eastman was saying publicly. but more notably is the work that he summoned was doing behind the scenes. he altered the now infamous coup memo, where he actually urged then vice president mike pence pence to literally throw at the results from seven states that joe biden had one before he, quote, gavels president trump as reelected. in order for that scheme to have work, trump and eastman n
principle on how to present it to the jury. this is like a bagel will. there are different spokes in the will. the hub of the will is donald trump. what we know is that some of the spokes are disinformation. it goes back to trump at the hub with johnny and ellis and sidney powell. there is the corruption of the doj with moving his buddies into power. it didn t work because he said to the apartment of justice to just say the election was corrupt and my republican panned fans will take care of it. my state pressure with the six states that had the fake electors, the michigan one that was just indicted. there is the attempt to try to get the governors to get legislators involved. that brings in the raffensperger case. he threatens criminal
go up to a circuit court of appeals which has plenty of judges that might be favorable. if all roads lead to the supreme court, the president would have a fantastic opportunity to argue issues of law before a supreme court which is the last resort and shows leanings towards the president. i ve given you defenses which have virtually nothing to do with the facts. they have a lot to do with other strategies. procedural, just stretch it out. let s move on to this. the special counsel s election interference investigation cynthia, the d.c. grand jury is expected to make that decision or gather them on tuesday. the target letter mentions that three federal statutes including conspiracy to defraud the united states and tampering with a witness. what do you think the special counsel s top arguments there might be? well, i think it is a sprawling case. it s very different from the case in florida. it s very complicated. you need to have an organizing
district in florida, whoever is the prosecutor wants to make sure that the jury becomes engaged in the case and is willing to be voting guilty. they need to figure out how the president has violated their trust and the sacred trust to take care of the country. he has lied and lied and lied about it. that align component is very important. it s important in overcoming a nullification issue in all kinds of cases and particularly in this one. what we know is that when the president left the white house in january of 21 he was not allowed to take any documents with him and certainly not any national defense documents. they belong to the american people. they belong to you, the members of the jury. he went ahead and took them in violation of that. he took documents on nuclear weapons. he took documents on our defense plans.