course of negotiations. jermaine starr is a senior fellow nebraska eurasia center. to hear president zelenskyy not rule out territory questions in negotiations, he s really talking about crimea here and also eastern donbas right here. what do you hear what he says that? reporter: well, one of the things he s been doing every day is building trust and respect with the ukrainian population every day via radio road cast, people getting act indicated to the way he s looking at things, his outlook. he is talking about referendums. it s actually really smart. in one way he understands from a military standpoint they are limited in their ability to push out the russians. on the other hand, he is saying, i want to take this to the people and let the people decide and let that guide my judgment. he is getting himself off the