i can t blame this administration or the previous one to the extent they wish to take the reasonable precautions they can to prevent the admission into the country of those who will be destructive of it what s submitted. you have to handle this with more diplomacy than it has been in the first week of this administration. i think if the senate gets on with confirming nominees to the senior post and the administration it will smooth out a good deal from what we ve seen this week. it s been a bumpy week. things will get better. you wanted to say something? i doubt it very much. i fear that things are going to get much worse. remember, donald trump traffics is narrative. islam hates us all. he lumps radical islam with islam and muslims.
i fear myself that if, again, donald trump keeps acting the way he does, that this really the trump administration might speed up the end of america s moment in the middle east and unleash also, this violates american values. you talk about american values. lumping all refugees with terrorists. imagine just the idea itself. so it does not look good. i also fear that there are many contradictions and big holes in trump s pronouncements on the middle east and the muslim world. he wants to defeat isis yet he lumps islam and muslims 1.3 billion muslims with radical islamism. how do you bridge this particular conceptual divide? it looks very bad from where i am sitting here in europe and the middle east as well. the trump/putin connection. you spend a lot of time in eastern europe. you have a house in poland.
political group that when you have michael flynn, general flynn, who says that islam is a political ideology, a sick ideology, when you have bannon saying what he s saying, you re really trying to tell me and the audience that this is not about political religious persecution? give me a break. all right. i want to get anthony, you think it is a muslim ban. it will be broached. we ll see. we promise president trump we ll see him in court. and the judge will decide. i think you re wrong. we ll see at the end of the day. in any event, david, you think the important thing to remember is you got to win this not just legally but politically. let me make the broader point. because yes, this is a nation of laws, but it s also a nation of policy. and frankly, we have a policy that is untenable. you can see that at airports. you will see that at embassies. i think the question for americans is not just about them, the refugees, it s about us. who are we as americans and the western world