horrific violence against humans. and it s really important right now to secure evidence. we have to secure bucha, for example, the bodies that are strewn all over the place there. and then we have to consider them like a crime scene. evidence needs to be preserved so that experts, forensic experts, ballistic experts can that have training in war crime investigation and know how to follow and have experience following protocols for evidence preservation so that they can do their work, preserve the evidence for eventual justice. rachel, explain to our viewers what a summary execution is. it s summary execution is where somebody, like, sets you up and shoots basically just shoots you in the back of the just shoots you. it s a shooting. it s a murder. and in the context of a war, an
victims in ukraine and even some are executions of civilians, which reportedly happened before what we are now seeing in bucha. the question is, what can the west do about it? i m joined now by rachel den berg. she is deputy director of human rights watch. thanks for being with us. human rights watch doing such important work here. but explain for our viewers the importance of documenting these atrocities. thank you, jake. it s really good to be with you. yes, we documented seven summary executions, one in bucha that took place march 4th and one in the village in the chernihiv region that took place on february 27th. and we also, like you say, we did document one case of rape in kharkiv region, and we ve documented other just horrific incidents of