we don t need a new idea, the idea is america and it still works. you spoke also. what was your message, about reframing the discussion about a centralized government. my message was that individuals and voluntarily associations can help care for people much better than government can. we can take care of ourselves and others much better without the brood be omni prepbs of assent ra liesed government dictating how we live our lives from washington d.c. that s the message of what we call civil society, the fact that families and individuals working with voluntary associations and religious groups can do a great job if government will stay out of way. bill: what you re saying is take the discussion away from the focus on government and putting it on what, the family, and the community and selfreliance. precisely. those are the things who have made america great. we are great as americans not because of who we are, but because of what we do. government can t create these voluntarily a