writes. many of those former administration officials met solely with the committee s republican members, representatives liz cheney and adam kinzinger, sources with direct knowledge said. some also testified together with their former colleagues, so groups of ex-white house staffers walking in, talking to the republicans. eugene, this feels like a very strategic way on the committee s part to do what congressman raskin described as unburdening these staffers of what they saw and what they know. no, absolutely. trying to figure out what exactly happened that day, and we know all of those staffers, many of them who have been on msnbc, on cnn, talking about the things that they have seen, and some staffers, i think, the number was 15, getting together to, quote the term they used was trying to take trump down. so there is this recognition in some parts, a very small sliver of the republican party, that they have to get out front of a lot of this, and that s something that we re going
including lying, deceiving, sucking up, throwing his wife and his father to the side in per suit of power. and that is pretty much the headline for where the republican party is today. carol len i go, i think in five years i have never contemplated leading with a ted cruz story. but this isn t a ted cruz story. this is about what threatens our country, what a terror attack is and is not. in the words of ted cruz on january 7th, 2021, the january 6th insurrection was, quote a despicable act of terrorism. in the words of ted cruz on january th, 2021, quote, yesterday s terrorist attack was a horrific assault on our democracy. january 8th, 2021, quote, we saw a terrorist attack on the united states capitol.
it is hard to tell someone they have been tricked because that will make them feel lesser and fooled. but a large part of the american public is in that situation. it s an unbelievable state of affairs. no three better people to talk to about it. thank you for starting us off on a day like today. when we come back, are those who called out the justice department for not yet holding the organizers of january 6th and the defeated expresident accountable feeling any better today about merrick garland after his pledge to pursue the january 6th perpetrators as, quote, any level? we will ask one of those critics next. plus, what are the consequences of the repeated lies of the expresident is how it has emboldened hate and extremism among people you might not expect. we will talk about how this is exploited and what can be done to stop it. and later in the program, the reports of cooperation between former members of vice president mike pence s staff and the january 6th select committ
i saw a difference between what i heard from joe biden before and from what i heard yesterday. i mean, i thought it was a forceful factual speech, a speech that i have been waiting for. but it s very i think he has taken this up a notch. and i was you know, every morning, as you know, i have a tendency to do readings. today is the birthday of this wonderful, wonderful poet named stora neil thurston whose both sets of grandparents were born to slavery. is ithate her birthday today. one of her pope ems had a beautiful quote in one of her poems, some years ask the questions and other years answer them. 2021 was a whole series of questions. i think what joe biden did yesterday, i think, and i hope is going to be beginning to answer them. i have encouraged over the last eight or nine months, i think they need to appoint a cabinet level position on democracy, on
it s 5:00 in new york. those were the ex-president s supporters who had just erected a gallows outside of the u.s. capitol. rioters got less than 100 feet from the then vice president right as his secret service detail whisked him and his family to a room off the senate floor. mike pence ultimately did not succumb to the pressure from donald trump, fulfilling his role and overseeing the certification of the electoral college and declaring joe biden the winner of the 2020 election. with all that in mind, axios has new reporting. quote, people in and around former vice president mike pence s office have been particularly cooperative as the january 6th select committee focuses on what former president trump was doing during the more than three hours the capitol was under attack. that s according to sources familiar with the testimony. the staffers, who we know are