come to the place where apparently he now resides, which is fully blaming donald trump for not only tried to overturn american democracy but endangering his life, the life of his family, the life of all the police officers at the capitol and everyone who is in the u.s. capital building that day. he will ultimately be a powerful and damning witness against donald trump. glenn kirschner thank you very much for starting off our discussion. andrew weissmann is going to remain with us for the rest of the hour. coming up, we will hear more from the star witness mike pence who has much more to say in the last 24 hours. that s next. 24 hours that s next. (dad) we got our subaru forester wilderness to discover all of the places that make us feel something more.
television and any fact pleaded donald trump guilty to the charge of attempting to obstruct an official proceeding and conspiracy to defraud the united states. everyone except donald trump no is that criminal defendants should not speak publicly about their cases. the same is almost always true for criminal defense lawyers. the most common response from criminal defense lawyers to requests for interviews about their pending cases is one word, no. most successful criminal defense lawyers never grant television interviews, never. too many of donald trump s lawyers are too eager to talk on trump supporting television about their client. and so tonight trump criminal defense lawyer john lauro, in his first interview after donald trump pleaded not guilty to conspiring to trying to get
about this. we yeah and as andrew said mike pence seems to found a religion. of course mike pence is forever telling us about his religion. it seems like he s found allegiance to the rule of law hearing him talk the way he is talking now, better late than never. i never understood how it was that when donald trump waged that relentless pressure campaign against mike pence then when you read in the indictment, donald trump ultimately said if you don t do what i m telling you to do, i am going to have to criticize you publicly. and then mid-attack in the capital, he says that a tweet blaming mike pence. mike pence didn t have the courage to do what he should ve done to protect our democracy and our constitution which inspired the mob to want to hang mike pence. i will never understand why it took so long for mike pence to
the question of which state was legitimate, which slate was legitimate, to the targeted states legislatures. in a shockingly incompetent slip, to put it mildly, on television tonight, donald trump s criminal defense lawyer actually emitted to that accusation in the indictment. donald trump s lawyer, you just heard, and don trump s lawyer said tonight on television, what president trump said is, let s go with option b. let s just halt. let s just pause the voting and allow the state legislators to take one last look and make a determination as to whether or not the elections are handled fairly. that is essentially what jack smith is accusing donald trump of having said. the indictment says that when vice president mike pence challenged john eastman on the legality of that idea in that meeting, quote, coconspirator
sequence, both ideas were battered unconstitutional. john eastman knew it, mike pence certainly know, time is donald trump noted. so barbara mcquade, donald trump s defense lawyer has tonight publicly entered two statements from donald trump very similar in warding but two statements that andrew suggests could be admissible in the trial, a trial or no one expects donald trump to take the stand and testify himself, this might be evidence in that case as presented by the prosecution as an admission to what they are accusing donald trump of doing? i think donald trump and his lawyers play different gain in the rest of us. i think we are all focused on the evidence it s gonna come in on trial in the court, and i think what he said tonight is harmful and, it s not gonna provide any valid legal offense, but i think donald trump s game is to win in the court of public opinion. detained the potential jury