the russians, let s give it a try. let s have a division of labor. we ll take on isis in iraq. let the russians and the iranians take on isis in syria and let s see who does better. i just feel we are in the middle east we re doing the same old thing over and over and over again, clinging to the hope that after more than 15 years afghanistan will be a success. time for a change. shannon: we have to leave it there. fascinating piece if people want to give it a read. colonel peters, great to see you. bill: 10:30. there is a plan for some teachers to defy president trump s immigration plans. we ll tell you what that s mome. shannon: the president calling the violence in chicago quote carnage. is it a fair assessment? we ll debate it. first here is bill o rielly. we ll have that coming up. there has been a wholesale failure on the part of state