again, we just have this quote. you have to understand that some people are giving us some quo s quotes. sure. again, they are talking to us like you do in your report. we have long relations with t m them. they give us some information. we are not inside the apartment with them. this special forces members who are injured, is that still at two? two policemen injured. yes, it has been confirmed to s us. is the raid much is it continuing right now, or has the gunfire subsided? is this a quiet standoff, so to speak? that i don t know. i am not on site. i cannot tell you that. i really don t know. okay. let me bring jim cavanaugh