that robbery, that is not a conspiracy. but if we all agree to rob a bank and i go out and steal the car or buy the masks, once i do that the conspiracy has culminated for the law and the conspiracy is in effect a conspiracy to rob a bank. and that is what you have here. conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists, isis in particular. and let s talk about what the real world threat or danger is to americans here. you have somebody as pete williams just said even though he was already under surveillance wasn t didn t have the cognition to think maybe i shouldn t make a phone call or get in contact directly with somebody who is known to be connected with the terrorist group isis. so if the person doesn t seem to have a savvy plan or maybe doesn t have the wear with all to do the wherewithal to do anything dangerous, are they still a threat that they have the goal to attack the country. it is a great question joy. but history is reif with people