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Skip to main content Bruce Springsteen and Barack Obama Talk Racism, Clarence Clemons, Protest Songs and Get Out for Spotify Podcast Chris Willman, provided by FacebookTwitterEmail Bruce Springsteen and Barack Obama talk extensively about issues of race in the first two episodes of their joint Spotify podcast, “Renegades: Born in the USA,” both released this week. The two discuss the racism the former president experienced growing up in Hawaii, Springsteen’s on- and off-stage relationships with Clarence Clemons, and how little has changed since the rocker released  the song “41 Shots (American Skin)” two decades ago… along with nods to the films “Do the Right Thing” and “Get Out.”

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