forward. we expect to hear all of these themes moving forward. but again, when he returns, to return to your earlier question, this is a president who will face pressure back here as well to keep that alliance together from afar as long as this does go on and then to be in a position to respond to whatever it is that putin does next, because at this point, again, we don t know what that will be. i want you to talk about that pressure to keep the alliance together from afar. i also want to layer on to that, in recent days, we have been seeing these reports about mass kidnappings, forced deportations, ukrainians brought into russian territory. those claims are largely, of course, impossible to fully verify. but is that something the united nations will take into account as they are evaluating whether or not putin is committing war crimes? i have to i don t mean to smirk, but i have no hope, unfortunately, with the united nations and any effort that we would see from them in coming
is not just here, but this week, secretary of state blinken also declared genocide committed by the myanmar military. using these words like genocide and war crimes when they happen, when we see it is to important, and i m so glad this is how we re going to do things from now on because one hand, we call it like we see it. and on the other, it allows us to put these to make these thugs face accountability one day. amna, hagar, rick, thank you. when we return, urgent calls from the biden administration to do more to help refugees from ukraine. we re going to talk to a democratic member of congress who is leading the effort to allow more ukrainians who have been displaced by this war to seek refuge here. plus, what will the january 6th committee do with those text messages from ginni thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas, urging donald trump s chief of staff to overturn the 2020 election? today we learned even more about the extent ginni thomas wanted
very important in this entire effort that you can see from the administration is this effort to remain united all along the way, and by doing that, it sends this message to the russian government that there is no daylight. we are in it to win it. we are not messing around. and that s going to be very important when you re talking about, as rick mentioned, helping frame the negotiations between ukraine and russia to bring an end to this and also to communicate not to even go near a chemical weapons attack. rick, let s talk a little bit more about the economic pressure piece, the isolation piece. you have vladimir putin today accusing the west of trying to, quote, cancel russia as more companies like spotify just today decide to abandon the country. i wonder, because you know so much about this particular issue, is putin s messaging that the cancel culture stuff effective? are people going to buy that argument in a month? in a year? i don t think so, alicia. i mean, he has grievances
planned effort to overturn the results of the election, to undermine our democracy, to really engage in a coup, and the fact that a spouse of a supreme court justice was part of that qanon effort is really disturbing. i think the justice has to justice thomas has to recuse himself from anything related to the trump administration, anything related to the january 6th commission or anything related to our effort to hold individuals accountable for their participation in this attack on our democracy at a bare minimum. i was about to say, you are looking forward. it seems likely that justice thomas has violated federal law twice, is poised to violate it a third time. should he be impeached? well, i think, you know, he has a lot of questions to answer. i think justice thomas has to come clean and tell us exactly the conversations he had with his wife about these events, whether it impacted the decisions that he has made or the thinking, does he too agree with this qanon crazy conspira
some of it is their fault but some of it isn t because russia is on the security council, they re a permanent member and they ll veto anything that comes their way but when you re talking about building the case for something that could go to the international criminal court, that all of that effort to build accountability, to document the evidence of war crimes, of which there are many, and of which many people are trying to do that on the ground, i mean, from every angle, documenting that is very important. one of the things we used to say was that all these criminals and thugs eventually face their day in court. and they do. you saw it with molosovic, bashear of sudan. usually, what has to happen is that the government itself in russia has to change for that to happen. so eventually, it will, hopefully. and putin will face his day in court. him and his cronies. and therefore, documenting all those evidences of war crimes is super important. i think one of the things that s really