he came out, and he said it s a pretty ingenious spin. he says what we re really looking at here is the illusion of access. rachel: because there were 20 calls, over 20 calls will: he was acknowledging hunter was doing some shady stuff, but he s saying it wasn t really access to joe biden pete: keeping the and hunter apart. will we ve yeah. he was selling the illusion of that kind of ran, to your point, pete, the mainstream media narrative for a day or two. watch. hunter biden was eling the illusion of said access. the witness testimony was very clear that hunter may have, quote, promoted the illusion of influence on his father. a source familiar with the matter tells me that, you know, archer told the committee that hunter biden was selling the illusion, illusion in quotes, of access to his father. dan can goldman said that archer testified that it was the
transcribed interview like we did last week, you ll either have jamie raskin or dan goldman come out and tell the press complete lies about what we just heard, and the press will run with it. we ve produced bank records, we ve produced everything i ve said about criminal activity about the bidens that i ve said i can back up. yet one member on the oversight committee on the democrat side can come out and tell a narrative to the press, and they run with it. will: congressman, i ve heard you say on several occasions this is the beginning. you ve essentially just begun the deposition phase. there are a lot of other characters in this, eric schwerin, hunter biden himself. can you give us some expectation of what s to come with the deposition phase? yeah. well, we have other people like devon archer who were in business, so to speak, with hunter biden. i hate to say this business because they didn t have a legitimate business. their business was influence peddling, and that s what devon
archer. so devon archer ooh s explaining the value of hunter biden sitting on the burisma board. well, it s for the grand. what does that mean, the brand? if who s the brand? if watch this testimony unfold. so archer says the brand, i think that s why burisma was able to survive for as long as it did. goldman says, because of additional capital or what in no, just because of brand. goldman says, well, i don t understand. how does that have an impact? archer says, well, capabilities to navigate d.c. that they were able to, you know, basically be in the news cycle. i think that preserved them from, you know, a longevity standpoint. that s, like, my honest, that s like really what i that s how i think about this holistically k. and goldman says, but how would that work? archer says, because people would be intimidate to mess with them, again, because of the brand. goldman asks, in what way? and archer says, legally. [laughter] this is about getting a prosecutor fired this ukraine.
illusion of access is goldman s lineful he s feeding it to archer, and archer doesn t buy it 100%. kind of, it s almost fair. hen he goes on to say because there was some actual connections. rachel: we have video proof of it where he said i told the, i m going to pyre i told them they better fire the prosecutor else they re not going to get their billion dollars. pete: yeah. and to continue what you said, so goldman follows up and says, almost fair? why almost fair in and archer says this, a line fed to him, because there are touchpoints and contacts that i can t deny that happened. but nothing of material, which that s another line they re using all week long, nothing material was discussed. they were just talking about the weather just like bill clinton and loretta lynch on tarmac, they were just talking about kids gifts. butting i can t go on record saying there was communications. will: so what he s saying there is the reports are in this
archer responds, is that fair, i mean, yeah, i think it is, i think that s, that s almost fair. rachel: that s almost fair. house oversight committee chairman james comer released those transcripts, and he joins us now. congressman, thanks for joining us. what do you make of this leading, you know, questioning and if sort of the hack of curiosity and the lack of interest in getting to the bottom of this corruption scandal on part of democrats? well, every two weeks we produce more evidence of wrongdoing by the biden family. we produce more links to joe biden, and yet the mainstream media continues to turn a blind eye. i keep thinking at some point they re going to break, ask we re seeing some movement from certain networks like cbs, but we still have a long way to go. but the one thing that drives me crazy is anytime i go down into a scif and get a briefing from the fbi or anytime we do a