we ll discuss that moving forward. with regard to the human rights abuses, the president has said, obviously, what we see images of women and children in afghanistan, of course, it s appalling, it s horrifying. what he would say is the best way for us to combat that around the world is not for the united states to put boots on the ground in every country where there are human rights abuses taking place we can do this through economic levers, humanitarian aid and rallying the world to put pressure on these people. but his belief is we can t defend it will rights of every person around the globe by putting american men and women in harm s way. john heileman? i think everyone can foresee, as you talk about getting first americans out and then america s afghan allies out of the country in the days and weeks ahead. everyone can foresee a debate over what s going to happen to