started by the ukrainians, the wagner forces really were not fighting on the ground. your point is relevant because it is when wagner turned against putin the counteroffensive by ukraine which many believed were going to be quite successful was just about to begin. the idea putin would go after wagner and have to pull other troops out, regular forces come out from ukraine in their defensive positions would need to be fighting an insurrection at home at the same time could be on the back footin same time could be on the back foot in ukraine was exactly the time you would not want to do that. that is no longer something putin has to worry about. there is the question of how wagner is going to behave underground in africa. there they are very significant and putin has allowed the wagner leadership to be meeting with