i can t help but think about this. a few seconds ago, i was speaking to a correspondent on the ground in ukraine and they mentioned the russians are saying this didn t happen. this is fake news. these images aren t real. of course. and i wonder if there are americans that feel the the sam way. i wonder of course there are. i wonder if there are people in this country who voted for donald trump who went to the rally in michigan and cheered him on who feel the same way. of course there are. yasmin, if you scratch the bare surface of the comment section of any of these right wing blogs or news sites, you will find them saying things like this is a false flag set up by george soros of the world economic forum so the new world order agenda can be pursued. this is all fake. it s all a lie. you know, this is trump and putin, you know, the deep states trying to take revenge on trump and putin.
it s a disgusting dark fantasy world. it exists in the meaningful republican party. donald trump didn t warn us he was a putin fan but invasion started and said this is genius. no, it s not genius. it s genocide. i mean, this is coming off a week in which donald trump asked vladimir putin for dirt on hunter biden. you look at the numbers when it comes to the war in ukraine. americans care about ukrainians, right? they care about what is happening to these ukrainians at the end of the day. a large majority, a large swath does. i wonder if this will have any effect going into the mid terms on the gop and those who stand behind donald trump. i mean, you re right. i mean, 80% of the country is behind what we re doing in ukraine. 90 something percent of the country has an unfavorable view
monsters. they are war criminals. again, the top to the bottom, from him all the way down to those soldiers who perpetrated these crimes. who knows what s in his head? who knows what s in his mind? this cannot be in any way a victory. he will lose. he will lose, yasmin. this just further guarantees that he will lose. and this seals the deal. and how do you make peace with that, ambassador? how does one move forward, how do the ukrainians move forward with a peace treaty essentially with a possibility of russian president vladimir putin remaining in power, which is all but certain, it seems, at this point. not knowing that he may very well do this again. yasmin, ukrainians, americans, europeans, we don t say we re not going to say when and how putin will leave. the russians will say that. the russians will determine
the ukrainian determineitation to win this war, this does it. it completely over it just demonstrates what has to happen. putin has to lose. it is just so clear that the ukrainians have to win. and that means that we need to support them. we need to support them with everything that they can possibly use. and we have to squeeze the russians with every sanction that we have got. this just demonstrates the moral clarity, yasmin, of this war. the moral clarity. she s right. there are not two sides to this story. there are not two sides. this is monstrous. let s get into what nato and the united states in fact needs to do. as you just said. you mentioned the sanctions. we had talked extensively about sanctions. president biden has repeatedly said the red line is essentially chemical weapons. we have not seen those as of yet
bucha, that they have to press ahead with it and try and change putin s mind and bring this war to an end. as always, my friend, thank you. and please do stay safe as you report there from lviv. so for more on the atrocities in bucha we re seeing, i want to bring in kira rudik, a member of the ukrainian parliament who visited the region today. thank you so much for joining us on this. i cannot imagine what you have seen over the last 12 hours or so. take me there. what was your experience like? hello, thank you so much for having me. so what i have seen, i just cannot accept. we have seen people, dead bodies on the sides of the road. we have seen the mass graves. with women and children and it was like about 300 people in the mass grave. we have seen people on the street, left there and some