throw his father-in-law over the side of the boat? and i think if in a heart beat, says mike barnicle. i think that s where we re headed. bob mueller will try to roll up jared kushner, put kushner in a situation where he s potentially being indicted and say i m going to indict you unless you flip on your father-in-law. i think both cases, both of those guys would happily flip on the other one or willingly if it came to saving their own skins. well, they ll protect themselves. then you have eric snochneiderm in new york city state moving full steam ahead on both trump and the kushners and in those cases there is no presidential pardon so things are about to become far more complicated for both families. coming up, we ve been mentioning his name a lot this morning and in just five minutes, attorney michael avenatti joins the conversation live on morning joe.
about, or you have someone whose history is so complex, financial dealings, travel, that they simply have to pour through that. it s not unusual that it would take a long time. the longer we get away from inauguration day, the more potentially troubling it is. we let facts and the absence thereof fuel fairness. let s put kushner to the side. he has to qualify as somebody who has a sophisticated background, something would be unusual even at the white house lfl in terms of all the transactions and dealings. until we know more, put him to the side. porter we know from the new york times and other sourcing that the fbi said this guy is not likely to get permanent clearance from us, and that it was communicated to mcgahn and maybe others that there were issues involving domestic violence with this man. if that got there, isn t that enough for them to have acted on rob porter? i think it would be. again, it s not the bureau that would grant the security clearance. i don t imagine that
and russian officials and after the week we saw the senate judiciary committee, dianne feinstein and chuck grassley say that kushner didn t hand over all the appropriate documents in regard to the russia investigation, what they were looking at. i think the white house would like to, i guess, put kushner in a corner at this point. he does seem to bring a lot of negative attention to this. they would like to sway that attention away from the white house as much as possible in this investigation. i want to put back up, guys, the president s tweet that just came out saying doug jones would be a disaster. weak on crime, the border and so on. either of you, would you be surprised if the president ended up going down to alabama in the next two weeks before the election? jeff, you first. you know, he weighed in on that sort of vaguely before leaving washington for florida for thanksgiving last week. he came out to the helicopter and a few reporters, including myself, asked him will you
mueller and david swerdlick. michael, what kind of danger could this put kushner in? well, it won t put him in any legal danger. they have responded pretty much as is required by a lawyer. they get it questioned. they respond with an answer. if the questioner thought that they should get a different type of answer, then it s incumbent on the questioner to ask a different question. or a follow-up question. this is not before mueller. they ve not playing fast and cute with mueller and his grand jury. they re just saying to the government, the congressional part of the government, if you want information from us, ask it, and we ll give it to you. but we can t define what s in your mind or know what you really intended by your question, so we ll answer what we understand your question to be and answer follow-up questions. so david, does the fact that kushner simply forwarded these e-mails matter? i think that matters, but i
kushner is back in washington, d.c. as president trump s secretary of, well, everything. the senior adviser son-in-law with no prior diplomatic or government experience has a long to-do list. not only is he working to broker a peace deal in the middle east, he s also working on improving ties with china, improving ties with mexico. don t forget he s also supposed to be innovating the government. meanwhile, the real estate project that put kushner on the map, well, that s bleeding debt. let s bring in cnn northern correspondent cristina alesci. what s the fate of this project and what s going on? reporter: well, the building has been struggling to make debt payments of what s goinging on. more context here, jake this. deal was jared s entrance into prime manhattan real estate before the family made smaller-scale investments. for example, condos in new jersey, but jared overpaid for this fifth avenue address, and now the family is trying to find a way to turn the deal around. 666 fifth