start that business community and how do we start that up? it will take a push pull start that up? it will take a push putt but start that up? it will take a push pull but the united states and other governments across the nation are not the governments across the nation are not the only ones dealing with this. on the not the only ones dealing with this. on the us not the only ones dealing with this. on the us issue because one of the problems we have here is a skills gap which we are trying to fill with migration. is there the same debate in america that that skills gap can only be filled with migration or is there an active debate about trading up there an active debate about trading up and skilling american workers? it s both. there are people that certainly it s both. there are people that certainly believe migration can feel that skills certainly believe migration can feel that skills gap at the same time we see unemployment rates while not superhigh see unemployment