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have a legislature chasing red herrings and driving a wedge between parents and teachers. we don t have time for it. we need to do what s best for our students. these bills are coming out fast and we re hoping the legislature will do their job and support teachers. i m from arizona i was reporting during the red for ed protest several years ago in which teachers were protesting for better pay, more pupil spending. and you talked about the fact that it s still hard to retain teachers. arizona has some of the largest class size in the nation, the shortage, ranks near the bottom for salary. do you worry this will hurt efforts to recruit and retain educators? that s exactly what it is going to do. arizona is becoming known as a state in the united states that s not where teachers aren t respected. we don t want that reputation for our state. teachers are going to work every day, doing their best and we
education to succeed. now, of course i ll say public education is succeeding in places fine with places with high property taxes and high income. for the poorest americans granted. my only point is when well resourced. in communities when there s plenty of resources public education works. we get this narrative that we don t know what to do but we do. we re the only country that tolerates these huge gaps. in europe and other places conservatives agree that there should be relatively equal per pupil spending or you need to invest more for disadvantaged kids. here you re considered a socialist. we ll wrap this part of the question but my letter of the week is next. afghanistan, in 2009. orbiting the moon in 1971. [ male announcer ] once it s earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection. and because usaa s commitment to serve current
phoenix. good morning to you, nice to see you. chuck, give us a sense. what s the state of education in phoenix? why is the focus on arizona? they spent, i think, 49th in the country per pupil spending in thatyear, we partner with a lot of our affiliates in different states and in different cities where there have been some challenges, and the entire state of arizona to put it bluntly has a challenging issue when it comes to education. you brought up the per pupil ranking, 49th out of 50, yet when you think about how fast-growing arizona is, the challenges they have and that they have a lot of students where english is a second language, for me, it s somewhat familiar. this is how i grew up in the 70s and 80s in miami, in south florida, when it was growing like crazy, had sort of this culture clash, if you will, and you can see when you dig deep into what s going on here, a lot of this has to do with sort of old political guard not ready to change the infrastructure, if
city in the state that spends that much. new jersey has districts that spend as high as $35,000. one of the things you ll piend is that the reason why the children are not performing is not because they are poor, it is because they are in a poorly run school and poorly run classroom. let me suggest there is invisible spending. let me suggest this. if you are in wealthy school districts, parents are also paying for tutors after school, enrichment activities and very expensive summer cams. it s april, right. we don t count any of that when we talk about per pupil spending, right? some of it is that there are huge disparities in some states, some of it is we miss a lot of the invisible spending that goes on. i guess, what i want to be clear about, i m not saying poor kids can t learn. that is crazy. poor kids are absolutely capable of learning. two of them are here right now. yeah. i mean, we re so
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