insurrectionists. help me understand this, what is that decision like for public speaker, public figures, whether they should speak up about this or not? you know, it is incredibly difficult to sort out the right response to this. because, the truth of the matter is, we got the intake of experience for multiple families across the country, there was a true coordinated, subculture online, of people that do these kinds of things, phoning in the fake 9-1-1 calls for fun. they pick someone, seemingly at random oftentimes, and decide to make their lives hole. the more that people decide to speak up about it, the more that they become victims, as well. you mentioned the kansas case, where a man got 20 years for having done this. that s an unusual thing. by and large, the people who do swatting get away with it, because the law has not caught up with this. that s why public officials may feel that they don t want to speak up, because they are worried about drawing the attention of the onlin
just have police having to show up again and again, with guns drawn. as a result, it has decaying the whole fabric of trust, not just between us and the police, but between police and us. it creates a tremendous problem. there s very little national coordination to get around this. there s a little bit of effort on the part of the fbi is trying to get law enforcement to talk to each other, but at this point, the response that you re trying to get, it is years behind the online groups who do this kind of thing for sports, steph. jake, one other problem to as a reason, some public officials facing this are not speaking about. it there was a judge, i want to say in wisconsin, who i saw a headline, they re urging other public officials who have been targeted to speak up, saying that if they don t, quote, we will lose the battle for democracy to a bunch of insurrectionists. help me understand this, what is that decision like for public speaker, public figures, whether they should speak up
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