any kind of peace track that leads to a two-state solution is going to be pushed off way into the future. i m back with my panel talking about the escalating violence between israel and hamas and how president obama can address these issues. chris, do you buy that? is this moving us away from a two-state solution which the president has been clear? here s what i would say. sure. yes. the hot war and people dying on both sides, i think, tends it a fundamental truth about politics, i think, it s true in american and the middle east. violence and war and fear empowers the most conservative reactionary elements in a society. pretty much always true. that part of your brain see post 9/11 u.s. the part of your brain says my kid is going to get killed is the part of your brain is not going to be into sorts of liberal pie he at thises and
islamic jihad, other sa laugh i groups. so there s a certain dreeg to which this war consolidates their power. they re firing the rockets as opposed to not enforcing a cease-fire with the israelis. even with hamas, the outside and the inside. this goes to your fundamental point, chris. there s a politics occurring that if we see it only as a question of the peoples, then we get we have a two flat view of what is happening in terms of the internal contestation. when you talk about gaza, right, the withdrawal from gaza, if i think the israeli perspective is we withdrew, we were rewarded with rocket fire. that s what you hear from israelis. the other side is that floif gaza is horrible. i don t think this is a political statement. you have 1.7 million people living in a population squeezed into three boroughs in new york.
change. you know what, i m sorry, we need to understand now that netanyahu has been in government for seven years and before him and arab countries met two, three times. in 2006, they told israel we re ready to recognize you. the only condition, please withdraw from the west bank, from the occupied territories. we re all ready, all of us together. the broker of that deal was actually king abdullah from the saudi. they went on and they told ariel sharon before and the israeli response, no thank you, we don t want this. we want the status quo. netanyahu himself carried the status quo building settlements. i m surprised to hear that jewish americans want a two-state solution. it s not it s not 22%. we re not giving them anything. that will lead to empowering more and more hamas. hamas is the winner of this war,
formation of the plo or the palestinian liberation organization which would be defined by the likes of yasir arafat. in 1978, u.s. president jimmy carter helped to broker the peace accords between saadat of egypt and prime minister ba begin of israel which paved the way for the 1979 peace treaty between those two countries. the lalt 80s saw the formation of hamas in the west bank and gaza erasing hopes. the oslo accords signed establishing recognition of each side between israel and the plo. years of talks followed and marred by disagreement. mahmoud abbas is elected as arafat s successor by the palestinian people. in the same year, israel withdraws from all settlements in gaz in. hamas then wins big in the elections sending a ripple of
with this operation in gaza it shows you that israel s strategy didn t change. take into consideration whatever take place in the middle east. and egypt. they don t have mubarak to broker any deal with them. they don t have any more even the jordanian king, he cannot afford to be seen in this moment with up rising in his country as the guy who speaks to israel. they have to negotiate directly and that guy is the guy they already killed. you know, i was interviewing the head of internal secret service and he said a year ago when there was a case in the public domain, he said we re negotiating with hamas today, when nathaniel said he would never negotiate with hamas, because they want i said what do you mean.