hey, can you institute a mandate? this is what we think is the best for your workers. and so that s the avenue they seem to be moving toward which is trying to apply pressure to states or local governments, but also to corporations to say that they should do them themselves because the federal government clearly can t. all right. carol lee reporting from the white house for us. carol, thank you. still with us, as i previewed, professor hoffman. and also joining me is president and ceo of one of the hard hit hospitals where federal medical teams are headed. he joins me from the university hospital in newark, new jersey. professor hoffman, let me start with the mandate rulings. we re not going to have the legal argument about the one they did. based on what they said was constitutional, are there other areas the federal government
worst weeks he s had in his presidency in terms of things just not going his way one after the other. quickly, carol, before i move over to, is the white house talking at all on the vaccine mandate front, talking about looking at the one mandate that did meet constitutional muster. the health care mandate? are they looking to design others that have sort of a similar description, federal dollars or connected to a certain group of people? reporter: yeah. well, there is another mandate with federal contractors that s out there. and i think what you re seeing from the white house is they re saying they re going to enforce the health care mandate, but they re also at this point, chuck, where they re kind of the people who are going to get the vaccine by and large have already gotten it. and so it s not clear exactly what leverage they have, particularly beyond what they say they re going to do now which is go to individual businesses and companies and say
current makeup of the court? no. i don t think osha could have done it any other way. the court said they exceeded the power it was granted by statute with this kind of broad public health mandate. and so there isn t a different way they could have done that. and is at this point, what do you think the chances are that the federal contractor mandate is upheld? it s possible. the court sort of split upheld one, didn t uphold another. so it just depends on what arguments the parties make. and what convinces a majority of the justices. all right. let me get a little sense of where the situation is right now. let me bring in the doctor. first, you have medical teams, military medical teams assisting. paint a picture of the situation
could go sort of using the health care mandate as a model? i don t think that s the direction they re going to go in. they will enforce the mandate that passed. the mandate regarding health care workers. but i think they will try to get the more traditional routes for these kinds of vaccine orders from the states, from local governments, and from businesses themselves. so it s important to understand that the supreme court didn t say nobody could ask employees to get vaccinated. it is simply that osha could not do that. is there anything in the ruling by the supreme court that makes you think osha could if they had done it a different way or added any other sort of carveout or was this a pretty complete open and shut with this
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