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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 18:02:00

inaccurate. mr. james is entitled to a fair trial and we win ensure he receives one. again, james did call crime stoppers himself, and he called and said this is frank, i think you are looking for me, my phone is about to die. that s a paraphrase. there are questions, why, and how long did he plan the attack and was he targeting any group in particular, and what might have happened if his gun did not jam? perhaps the hardest question of all to answer, how do officials stop the next person like frank james? and joining me is nbc news justice correspondent, pete williams and toni. i want to begin with you. what did you see today? the arraignment got started today and it was his first

Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 18:07:00

pete, the fact that he did not kill anybody, and the fact that all the injuries are lower body injuries and everybody survived, is that going to factor into the charging? i don t think so. i mean, the fact that nobody was killed, fortunately, is the reason why the charges aren t more serious, but in terms of the statute, it doesn t matter. once he started opening fire then he qualified for this enhancement, so it really that part really doesn t matter. it raises the question, i think anybody would ask is why did he set off the smoke? what was the point of that? was it to obscure he was doing the shooting? it s all very strange. very strange, indeed. joining me in the studio is doug burns, the former federal prosecutor in the criminal eastern division of new york, which is the district that brought the charges against mr. james. tell us what is going on right now? basically the complaint is

the judge ordered him held in jail until his trial, but the defense team said they might seek bail in the future. his attorneys also requested a psychiatric exam. a public defender representing james in the eastern district of new york spoke to reporters outside of the courthouse right after the hearing. what happened in the new york city subway system on tuesday was a tragedy. it s a blessing that it was not worse. we are all still learning about what happened on that train, and we caution against a rush to judgment. what we do know is this. yesterday mr. james saw his photograph on the news. he called crime stoppers to help. he told them where he was. initial press and police reports in cases like this one are often

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