talking, chris goldsmith, who s sort of monitors extremism in the military and other places made a similar point about school board meetings. just show up. you don t have to say anything. just be present. be in the room as sort of a witness to what s going on. it s a great point. it s something people can do. it helps with the despair. michigan secretary of state jocelyn benson, thank you so much for starting us off this hour. when we come back, long-time trump fixer michael cohen says the disgraced ex-president s lie is actually a big grift. cohen s prediction about where it s heading and the latest as investigators zero in on donald trump and his family. plus how online sleuths tracked down a january 6th insurrectionist accused of assaulting police officers at the capitol. and later with much of the world worried about that new coronavirus variant, one medical experts say it is not time to panic. deadline white house continues after a quick break. deadline white house conti
ego but by an insatiable desire now for revenge. so, i do understand michael cohen s point that he wouldn t want to cut off the grift, but the grift is forever. the grift doesn t go away. whether he wins or loses, because this is who donald trump is. the grift will the grift will persist one way or another. yes, and he called former military heroes losers, his patriotism did not extend to them. but the grift is forever. and all time. donna, let me show you something that may complicate that. he may have to do that, i don t know, from jail. here s michael cohen on where the investigations stand. and you can bet your bottom dollar that allen weisselberg is not, and i mean this, allen weisselberg is not the, you know, the key to this. they are going after donald. they re going after don junior, eric, ivanka, a whole slew of
of someone like donald trump in 2024. that s very alarming. you know, betsy, i m not going to play it, but arkansas governor asa hutchinson made comments this weekend about the violence, about the lack of civility. i mean, are there private concerns? i know there aren t any public utterances but are there private concerns about the violent, most racist elements of the party being green lit by the party will endanger the homeland, will green light the extremists here at home? are there folks who used to care about homeland security who are worried about that? within the republican party and the republicans on the hill who i talk to regularly, i haven t heard anyone say they believe this type of extremism in the case of lauren boebert explicit islamaphobia is a security threat. that s just not something that i have heard. one thing that republicans are monitoring really closely, of
and they re negotiating what could be a, quote, sizable investment. my question is, and i know if trump wins, there wouldn t be anything that would preclude jared kushner from running the world again, but is this a dicey area for jared based on his past role as someone who dealt with these governments for the u.s. government? both these themes are the same. both trump and jared. and they are a leopard or a trump doesn t change his stripes. i ve looked at it. i think it s probably not outside of the law, but it s sleazy as the day is long, and that s, by all indications, what he was doing in government in the first place. he was using his position to try to further his own interests. now he s not in government anymore. it probably flies with the ethics rule. one quick point. i think the evidence is to the contrary on the manhattan d.a. investigation actually indicting trump, but we ll know soon because vance jr., who s heading it, is going to be gone at the
what do you do, miles, about a leader, and forget about these nuts, what do you do about a leader who green lights the violence, who green lights the racism, who green lights all of it in service not just of his own ambition but donald trump s. well, one, you don t make that person a leader, and charlie sykes said it so eloquently in that piece, he s left me scarcely anything to say but my point to kevin, if i saw him right now and worked with him once upon a time and i know that claire did as well, and unfortunately, kevin mccarthy s the type of guy that goes whatever way the wind blows and does what he has to do to advance himself politically, but if he does not condemn the marjorie taylor greene goons and the boebert bigots in his caucus, it s not only going to undermine his ability to govern, if he becomes speaker of the house, it will drastically reduce his ability to stitch together a fractured country, because he is enabling highly