trump s orbit who is trying to have it both ways. he s trying to thread the n needle. we know in certain instances, pat cipollone did the right thing. when donald trump was try ing t install a loyalist to take over d oorks j, cipollone stood on the right side of that. he said i m knot going to stand for that. at the psalm time, he doesn t want to put himself out there and alienate any of his friends. we don t have sinners and saints here. there are shades of gray. tomorrow we ll hear from former doj officials. what are you listening for? so the attempt to take over doj was really all about validation in my view. we have seen that donald trump was casting about desperately to find any person, any entity, any governmental body to lend any support or have to false claims of election fraud. the most adashs was his attempt to try to get doj to say we found election fraud when they had done no such thing. we re going to hear about how trump tried to install this
primary pack. he s a newcomer to politics and had to deep dive into maga world after having a different political identity while appearing on television. david mccormick are on the airways big time. and at the psalm time, it s political newcomer kathy barnett who may be the spoiler here. she s seen a late rise in polling despite spending a fraction of the money. we re going to talk to her live tomorrow. so all of the pennsylvania republicans are trying to out trump each other, despise oz having the formal backing. what was interesting i was at a campaign event where mccormick stopped to talk to me. the event itself was about the need for better trained workers and didn t hear much red meat at all. you didn t hear about the trump stuff. but then when i asked how he planned to win the nomination,
can work across party lines, but that district she did swing was 2-1 republican to democratic registere registered. at the psalm time standing up to trump, right? this desire to take on trump, to fight him, to meet fire with fire, for pushing light against the darkness. she sort trying to do better. i have 40% plus of the party want to become more progressive. how does, if she where do you see her positioning herself out there right now.
to have to figure out a way to keep cohen and his family safe while at the psalm time getting his testimony. they are working with law enforcement agencies now on that very project. i think what we d all really like to see here is mueller s investigation. i think we re all hoping that that is going to be coming out because we know he s had many investigations with mr. cohen. we know that cohen was want cooperating with mueller and his investigation. i think that could help us understand what is going on here and further areas that we might need to look into. we know the mueller probe is considering public statements made by the president and those around him as part of the matrix of obstruction of justice. so these will be looked at that way as well. congresswoman, you have so many former navy pilot, thank you for putting all those hats on for us. thank you for having me.
the independence of the justice department, the freedom of the fbi to pursue investigations including into high-ranking political figures without pressure. talking about rod rosenstein s public comments on those matters this week which i think are important. do you have any sense within the justice department or within the fbi what the feeling is about the treatment of people like baker and page and mccabe and comey, these people who have both been both been pushed out or sort of led to resign by being reassigned and taken away from the work they were doing before or overtly fired while at the psalm time the president s really been mounting an attack. how does that play within doj, within the fbi? it s a little bit of a mixed bag because people inside the justice department and inside the bureau really resent the attacks by the president and they really feel he has been treating not just all of the people he s attacking by name but really the work of everyone in the fbi and the jus