relations committee, studying the situation in ukraine crossly and attended a classified briefing today on iran, a briefing he described as quote sobering and shocking, and i want to talk to you about that as well, senator, but let s start with russia, good to have you here. thanks for joining us. senator, we ve got diplomacy, we ve got ready for, you know, readiness for military action, and in between there, there s variations on appeasement and sanctions. tell me where we are on the continuum of an invasion and engagement with russia because of it. let s step back for a second and frame this up. this is a signal of russian weakness, this potential invasion of ukraine. this is a former russian republic, a former soviet republic, a country that was under the thumb of russia, just a decade ago, when russia had a proxy government installed inside kyiv, and today, russia has lost ukraine, ukraine people have decided that they want to
readiness for military action, and in between there, there is variations on appeasement, and shanks and s. tell me where we are on a continuum and engagement with russia because of it. let s step back for a second then from this up. this is a signal of russian weakness, this potential invasion of ukraine. this is a former russian republic, a former soviet republic, it is a country that was under the thumb of russia just a decade ago, when russia had a proxy government installed. today, russia has lost ukraine. ukraine people have decided that they want to be part of europe, they want to be part of nato, and the only resort left for vladimir putin to try to drag ukraine back into its
this is a former russian republic, a former soviet republic, it is a country that was under the thumb of russia just a decade ago, when russia had a proxy government installed. today, russia has lost ukraine. ukraine people have decided that they want to be part of europe, they want to be part of nato, and the only resort left for vladimir putin to try to drag ukraine back into its orbit is this disastrous invasion that he may be planning. so we have to address this on several fronts, first we do need to give ukrainians the ability to defend themselves. we are not going to put hundreds, of thousands of u.s. troops inside ukraine, but we can supply ukraine with the means to defend itself. second, we need to make sure that russia understands, there is going to be a devastating blow to their economy if they walk into ukraine, and we are showing them that by really putting together an extraordinary set of potential sanctions. not just with the europeans, but with many of our allies all
the russians plan to encircle kyiv. for this point the defense and intelligence officials say it s pretty apparent they plan to encircle kyiv and there are plans to have a proxy government, pro-moscow friendly government in place and ready to go. all right. katie bo lillis, thank you. appreciate that. joining me from london is the manager of the ukraine forum and the russian and eurasia program at chatham house. you tweeted that russia attacked ukraine not because it has security concerns but because it has territorial claims on ukraine. that seems clear now, but how far do you think putin will go in a territorial sense? take it all?
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