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hours ago. that is where he had taken control of the key russian military facility an act of retaliation after russia s military launched a missile strike on wagner group camps, the kremlin has said that prigozhin would quote go to belarus and wagner soldiers would not be prosecuted, nbc news has not independently confirmed the details of that deal. so how did we reach this moment, the wagner group is what russia calls a quote private military company, the u.s. calls it a proxy force for the russian government. until now, prigozhin served putin as a loyal soldier aiding russia s war of choice in ukraine. but that has now turned on its head. in a new call for msnbc.com, danny none of this would happen if putin hadn t invaded ukraine in the first place because of his propensity towards maintaining a russian influence without tapping into the russian army, putin created a frankenstein, quasi-army he couldn t fully control. in the process putin elevated a
thank you. and i want to go now to the retired air force lieutenant general charlie tuna moore. general, i appreciate your time. you hear that conversation with the ambassador. ukraine, obviously, is not taking responsibility for the attacks on moscow. they deny them outright. what do you think is the most likely scenario of who is responsible? well, good evening, erin. obviously, this could be some type of false flag operation conducted by the russians for the reasons that you just played in that tape. it s a way of galvanizing the russian citizens behind this continued war effort. or it could be the ukrainian forces, the military forces or some type of proxy force. if i had to guess, i would say it s more likely the matter. and the reason i say that is because i look at what s really to be gained by the type of operation that we saw occur inside of moscow today. and, in my mind, it s really about messaging the russians, that russia, and even moscow, and even a wealthy neighbo
again human rights watch documented summary executions of civilians. you look at the wagner group today, this sort of proxy force for the russian government. they re under sanctions by the european union because of summary executions and torture in libya, ukraine, syria and the central african republic. so unfortunately, this is just the way they operate. obviously, these pictures are shocking, but i don t think they re really surprising. elliott, you so often, when discussing this war, people call it putin s war, and they say it s his invasion, suggesting that the russian people don t support it. can you separate the two? and how do ukrainians see it? look, do they think that put zinn acting alone without the support of the russian people? actually, i know they don t, quite frankly. no, you re right, don. they don t. a ukrainian friend of mine was originally saying is it putin who is setting up black markets
going to have a proxy force for afghanistan. they ll pump up in the proxy force. it will look like what it used to. a proxy war of six different fashion. it s a terrible picture in the future. you hope we are not going to be vulnerable to attacks in our homeland and that chaos. the other thing as complicated as you know, the idea that you can pour money into afghanistan and sort of do it in a way that does not touch the taliban. the pristine sort of self-contained and you can use ngos. it s a fantasy. they re going to take their cut. of course. the taliban will become corrupt. well, jonathan, you recently spoke with afghanistan ambassador in the united states, her first interview in the fall
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