burden has been met here by the prosecution to establish that arbery was not a threat to these men who shot and killed him? as in the rittenhouse case, the prosecution has the burden to disprove self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt. they adopted a provocation theory, that these men went to the problem and, therefore, can t claim self-defense. but the key is and everything maya said is exactly right except well, in addition, if the jury finds these men had probable cause, the georgia statute as it was drafted permitted someone to go out, chase someone, lay their hands on him. these are statutes that date back to the 1860s when there were no police. citizens were the police. do we need them today? i don t think so. i don t think it is a good idea. do you trust citizens to go out and arrest people? i don t. danny. yes, joe? probable cause for what? exactly right. so the defense s theory is that